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Assuming the RS doesn't vomit driveline parts... Marketing and real life are often two different things. Nothing money can't over come ( ask the EVO and STi boys ). But to say we can be sure the driveline will be built proof is going a little far. Also, most focus ST's are 3450lbs. The RS will add a good 250lbs. Now we're talking 3650-3700lbs !!! And I mean on a scale, not on a door sticker or sales pamphlet. A 350hp AWD car that weighs 3600lbs will still be fast/quick. But its not gonna be an instant 11sec car. One that runs 11.50 would likely be on the bring of exploding a VERY expensive driveline, if it had not already exploded.
Power + weight + AWD is rarely a combo known for reliability, and if it is reliable ( see AUDI ), then its rarely ACTUALLY fast ( which is different than magazine fast, again, see EVO/STi ).
One more thing... Guys that have been around the fist for 2+ years now, we know how hard it is to bring parts builders around for a low production car, how do you think that will apply to the RS with 70% of people buying them say, "I have an RS at home in the garage, I check the tire pressure 2 times a week, but never drive it". The other 30% might drive it, but modding them maybe not be a real thing for 5 years ( see 2004 R32 VW golfs ).
Don't get me wrong, DHM will prob have a setup for those 1% of people that are not going to be ok with losing to a fiesta at the drag strip or getting COMPLETELY DESTROYED by a big turbo Fost on the highway, but I just don't think modded RS's are going to be very common with the price and resale they will have.
On the flip side, the price of a 2013 fost is about to fall into SRT4 land, lol.
I do have to agree on the point of fiesta's ans even fost's not driving around on slicks everyday. Fearthesnail vs a stock RS on the street 0-100mph ? My money is on the RS that is likely a 13.50 car, lol. My good friend has a 28k mile 600hp syclone, and awd on the street is about impossible to overcome unless is a wrx, lol
Power + weight + AWD is rarely a combo known for reliability, and if it is reliable ( see AUDI ), then its rarely ACTUALLY fast ( which is different than magazine fast, again, see EVO/STi ).
One more thing... Guys that have been around the fist for 2+ years now, we know how hard it is to bring parts builders around for a low production car, how do you think that will apply to the RS with 70% of people buying them say, "I have an RS at home in the garage, I check the tire pressure 2 times a week, but never drive it". The other 30% might drive it, but modding them maybe not be a real thing for 5 years ( see 2004 R32 VW golfs ).
Don't get me wrong, DHM will prob have a setup for those 1% of people that are not going to be ok with losing to a fiesta at the drag strip or getting COMPLETELY DESTROYED by a big turbo Fost on the highway, but I just don't think modded RS's are going to be very common with the price and resale they will have.
On the flip side, the price of a 2013 fost is about to fall into SRT4 land, lol.
I do have to agree on the point of fiesta's ans even fost's not driving around on slicks everyday. Fearthesnail vs a stock RS on the street 0-100mph ? My money is on the RS that is likely a 13.50 car, lol. My good friend has a 28k mile 600hp syclone, and awd on the street is about impossible to overcome unless is a wrx, lol
I think there are going to be a (small) bunch of 600hp Focus RS pretty soon because there are already a few 600hp EcoBoost Mustangs running around. I think they will figure out how to get in the 10s.
Like I said, I like a fast car but my goals aren't tied to the Focus at all.
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One more thing, the Fiesta ST aftermarket was slow because it is an uncommon car in the US with an engine that isn't in any other performance model.
Focus RS is starting out with a head start because of the Mustang which isn't limited production at all, has a historically strong aftermarket and even a Mustang SVO nostalgia angle. At the same time, Evo is gone, lots of people who would have bought one are going to buy an RS. Those type of buyers are going to do a fair amount of built RS too.
RS is going to be different in many ways.
Like I said, I like a fast car but my goals aren't tied to the Focus at all.
Edit:
One more thing, the Fiesta ST aftermarket was slow because it is an uncommon car in the US with an engine that isn't in any other performance model.
Focus RS is starting out with a head start because of the Mustang which isn't limited production at all, has a historically strong aftermarket and even a Mustang SVO nostalgia angle. At the same time, Evo is gone, lots of people who would have bought one are going to buy an RS. Those type of buyers are going to do a fair amount of built RS too.
RS is going to be different in many ways.
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Yeah, the RS is going to be well-supported. Most magazine numbers are showing it to be a low-to-mid 13 second car, so I won't be surprised to see a few 12-second stock examples with good drivers. I've already seen some of the tuning info and upgrade concepts and it's definitely going to be a beast. It's a halo car and will get significant attention because of it. Not that Ford hasn't already aced the publicity leading up to it...
AWD to FWD just isn't a worthy comparison. I'm pretty excited to see what is in store for the FiST/FoST though, I think both platforms are going to make decent strides this year. I've seen a couple of 11.6 runs out of the FiST but the FoST just went over 500 whp over the winter so there might be a few drivers that can pilot some good times. They also seem to have a fuel solution almost finalized, so that should pave the way for some even larger numbers.
AWD to FWD just isn't a worthy comparison. I'm pretty excited to see what is in store for the FiST/FoST though, I think both platforms are going to make decent strides this year. I've seen a couple of 11.6 runs out of the FiST but the FoST just went over 500 whp over the winter so there might be a few drivers that can pilot some good times. They also seem to have a fuel solution almost finalized, so that should pave the way for some even larger numbers.
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